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Ted Todd Member	posted 05-15-2007 12:21 PM Hey gang- Check out Boy George's site. Doug Williams and a few of George's little lap dogs are going at it. Good stuff! Ted [This message has been edited by Ted Todd (edited 05-15-2007).] IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-15-2007 12:55 PM Like eating chicken livers, brain sandwhiches,or any other initially tasty bits, i find that viewing and posting on the anti-site has a negative affect on my state of body and mind. I have posted on there before as "palerider" just to be a pain. I even invited George out to dinner when I was last in Europe (we both speak arabic, although his is better). He ignored my invite. I love my country and the law enforcement protection, but I am most irrate by his advocacy of sex offender cm's and all of the distortions on the board regarding pcsot. I have privately and publicly implored him to remove the PCSOT posting area as it reflects poorly on his mission, and has the least bit of reliable information---which says a lot as the site as a whole has plenty of crapola. I have even sensed that he contemplates doing so on occasion----but he perseveres. Viewing his site gives me heart murmers because there is plenty of truth over there mixed in with the bologna.I especially dislike the "keep your mouth shut" advice for my (and your) sex offenders. In Indiana, a failed poly test with zero admissions on an SO means nothing---that is, it is not actionable. sigh. I hate those anti guys. IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-15-2007 03:21 PM You know - I just find it hard to believe that Doug has taught 125,000 people how to pass a polygraph. I wonder if he has claimed all his earnings to the IRS? Ted, at least when they are fighting each other they don't focus on us and post your mug all over the pages! ha ha ... Taylor IP: Logged
sackett Moderator	posted 05-15-2007 03:45 PM Taylor, don't pick on Ted; he rode the short bus to school. Besides, he likes the attention by george, it builds his ego........even more! Jim IP: Logged
Ted Todd Member	posted 05-15-2007 07:57 PM Jim, Here is some "short bus" math to ponder. Doug Williams said he has taught 125,000 people how to beat the polygraph. Lets say he only charged each of them $30.00. I know that is a low price but lets give Doug the benefit of the doubt. My "short bus" math shows that 125,000 times 30 clams = 3.75 million dollars. If he were telling the truth, he wouldn't still be living in a chicken shack in Oaklahoma! I think Doug is FOS ! By the way Jim-Let go of my ego! Ted IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-15-2007 07:57 PM I doubt he has done the volume he claims, after all, he was a polygraph examiner and we are (in)famous for exaggerating our prowess. Call me a ****y, but I'd rather not be in the specific cross-hairs of nerdboy Geo. I'd just assume take cheap shots at him and his towel boys from poolside, and maybe plant a seed of doubt in readers/neophytes. I'd just assume not have his manic-fringed disciples trying to disrupt my work. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-15-2007).] IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-15-2007 08:25 PM I always wondered who the infamous 'pale rider' was....I enjoyed your taunting (plus you just gained a few bonus points in my book). I haven't jumped into any conversations over there (nor do I intend to) cuz you can never win! (in their eyes) I also think Doug is FOS! Maybe someone should alert the IRS and see if they want to audit the little bastard. By the way, how do you know he lives in a chicken shack? I saw the guns on the walls (in his new videos) so I assumed...ew I won't go there. By the way anyone that doesn't go to the anti site has to go to Doug's updated web page and watch his videos (first page and on the testimonial page) - he calls those others (Georgie) fakes, fools, phonies and frauds...and they should listen to the expert not the imposters! Taylor IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-15-2007 09:06 PM Okay, which one is nonombre? IP: Logged
rnelson Member	posted 05-15-2007 09:55 PM Did we ever learn the true identity of Anal Sphincter? Too bad Pale Rider didn't leave the whole place red, but that would be equivalent to vandalism wouldn't it. r ------------------ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." --(Stanley Kubrick/Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove, 1964) IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-15-2007 10:46 PM It's funny, but while engaging in some cheap shots along with some crude profanity (my favorite past time) on anti some months back, a fellow examiner sent me a private message (no doubt viewed by administrators) which stated that what I was doing was futile----and the funny thing was his tone of message to me---rather blustery, almost like he had jumped into my little foxhole, out of breath, and sharing a trembling- handed cigarrette between war time engagement. His projected sense of defeat further motivated me to avoid the science arguments, avoid the logic, avoid pointless attacks, and focus on thoughtful, but absolutely circular dialogue. I never posted with great expectations or results, I suppose I just wanted to take some diferent approaches (than other examiners in past years). I wish I could remember the other combatant's username. He told me that what I was writing was "hopeless"---he assumed that my posts were some form of attempt at "winning" something. All I wanted to do was create doubts in would-be sex offenders who might be teetering on believing the antihype but are confused. If one high risk sex offender decided to NOT use cm's which would've possibly caused an inconclusive, than that was good enough for me. Based on questions from posters who've actually read TLBTLD, it appeared that many people are confused. Although to us, TLBTLD seems simple enough, but to laymen, it's prety intimidating--evidenced by the many "short bus"questions from people who seemed intellegent enough, but couldn't grasp the CQ concept. I tried on a few occasions to facilitate the confusion--- ultimately hoping to get the future examinee to give up the intelectual pursuit out of fear and self doubt. Because the site is too fancy to discredit them (cm's and their proponents)altogether, I believe that we must reinforce people's self doubt to get them to surrender cm efforts. Nobody wants to make a fool of themselves trying some internet "it's easy" scheme. When someone explains the control question recognition process (for the upteenth time) I would post something and replace the word control with relevant. It seems moronic but when you're trying to learn something under pressure, ya don't want even the slightest twists in instruction or advice. If someone takes a high moral road, you take the "favorite uncle" road. If someone takes the science "begging the question" road, you take the "hiding behind science" approach. If someone attacks your argument formulation, you step back and appear injured as your wife would react if your mother corrected her grammer----nobody likes a snob. If someone insults you with crudeness, you write back with humor and self deprication. When I wrote on anti-poly, I wrote to the passerbys, not the 4 or 5 shmucks. Most of those creatures are doing bong hits, or are frustrated with a lack of sexual contact. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-15-2007).] IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-15-2007 11:05 PM I once likened nonombre's writing style to Barry if he had a tinge of offensiveness. I believe I abandoned that notion soon thereafter. Having just visited the site and seeing a post of similar "short bus" math, I suppose that Ted Todd is nonombre----or is it a coincidence? Maybe I need the short bus. I posted some crap on there since we're talking about those kooks. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-16-2007).] IP: Logged
Ted Todd Member	posted 05-16-2007 10:02 AM Stat It is just a co-inkydink as I am not Noombre. When and if I ever post on George's site, you will all know immediately that it is me! By the way-Palerider is back. Check the thread by the guy whos passed his test and is now having stress issues. Also, if you watch each of Williams' media clips, he screws up his math there as well. In the various clips, he said he can teach a person to beat the test in 5 minutes, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes and then, less than five minutes. That is the problem with lies. It is very hard to remember which lie you last told! Ted [This message has been edited by Ted Todd (edited 05-16-2007).] IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-16-2007 11:19 AM When I first read the thread about the guy who passed his test and is having stress/psych "issues" I swear I heard the violin-saturated theme song from Shindler's list playing in the background. I don't know who is more moronic, the poster, or me for engaging in such immature graffiti. IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-16-2007 07:19 PM Stat - I see your profile says private in Indiana. Who are you? Taylor IP: Logged
sackett Moderator	posted 05-16-2007 08:48 PM stat, what's wrong with tinges of offensiveness? You say it like there's something wrong with it...LOL Sackett IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-16-2007 09:43 PM My name is Jessica Cromwell and I'm a single mom just trying to get by. lol IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-17-2007 10:35 AM I'm done posting on the anti site for a while. George has invited me to post cm charts. I do have some pretty goofy cm charts but I have no interest in tutoring someone to temper their attempts with subtlty. The most aggressive poster on that forum in my view has always been Digithead, and he isn't posting (sex change operation?). EosJupiter is too easy to rattle due to his paranoia and limited wit. As always, I hope that passerby's see my very simple posts and become even a little skeptical. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-17-2007).] IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-17-2007 11:44 AM Stat, I am still waiting for a serious answer.....Who are you? IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-17-2007 12:23 PM You've heard of "Sting", "Prince", "Jewel" and others with only a one word name, haven't you? I am "Stat: Master of the Pan Flute and Maker of Award Winning Chili" IP: Logged
sackett Moderator	posted 05-17-2007 01:07 PM stat, aren't you related to "chad", from Florida? I think he committed suicide, though; sorry. sackett [This message has been edited by sackett (edited 05-17-2007).] IP: Logged
rnelson Member	posted 05-17-2007 01:14 PM He's the artist formerly know as stat. Be careful man, wasn't Marsyas flayed alive for arrogance and boasting of his mastery of the pan flute? You're just kind of inviting attention on the anti-site. r ------------------ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." --(Stanley Kubrick/Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove, 1964) IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-17-2007 01:29 PM Rnelson;"You're just kind of inviting attention on the anti-site." You're right Ray. I'm done. This morning I remembered why I stopped going there the last period of visitation. I was supposed to be working for the last 2 days but I have resceduled the tests and I have had WAY too much time on my hands. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-17-2007).] [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-17-2007).] IP: Logged
rnelson Member	posted 05-18-2007 09:23 AM You'll be back at it. Your hooked. Admit it. Its fun and you like it... avoiding work, heckling the anti-site You have to admit you have a problem here... On second thought, I'll give 3 to 1 (or .75) that he can't go a month. Any takers. r ------------------ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room." --(Stanley Kubrick/Peter Sellers - Dr. Strangelove, 1964) IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-18-2007 10:04 AM Step 1. Admit that I have a problem. Step 2. ..... IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-23-2007 03:09 PM Check out D. William's lengthy scathing remarks on the antisite. It's war. I wasn't fully aware of how George and Doug's relationship began until now. This is almost as cool as a war between Syria and Iran. I'll have 1 large popcorn and a bag of Twizzlers please! [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-23-2007).] IP: Logged
Ted Todd Member	posted 05-23-2007 05:51 PM Would anyone care for a refreshingly cool glass of ASSWHOOP? I can hear the nail gouging and hair pulling from my office. Folks-it just doesn't get any better than this. It could not have happened to two more deserving people! Ted IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-25-2007 06:09 PM I kind of have a guilty pleasure thing going on while reading anti site this week....its kind of like slowing down to see the traffic accident. Anyway, I just couldn't help cutting and pasting this message from today......enjoy! FROM DOUG TO GEORGE: I have a much better way of resolving our differences. I have a “public challenge” of my own to put to you. I challenge you to a bare-knuckle, no-holds-barred, knock-down-drag-out, fist fight. You are a self important, puffed-up, pompous ass and you really do need an attitude adjustment. A good beat-down will do wonders for changing your arrogant attitude, and I’m just the man to give it to you. I look forward to beating your bloated face into a bloody pulp, and stomping your fat ass. Don’t disappoint me now and wimp out on my challenge or I’ll have to add the word coward to the list of adjectives I use to describe you. IP: Logged
sackett Moderator	posted 05-25-2007 08:56 PM Gotta luv it! Real "professionals" having an intellectual conversation. The only thing that would be better is if doug sets a "challenge clock" on his web site. Ya know, I can see it now: "367 Days since I called george out and he's still not accepting..." LOL Best to all, Jim [This message has been edited by sackett (edited 05-25-2007).] IP: Logged
Ted Todd Member	posted 05-30-2007 10:41 AM It just keeps getting better and even more professional! Now Dougie has challenged Georgie Boy to an all out fist fight? I would pay big money to watch that one. I would pay ever more if they would let me participate! LET'S GET READY TO RUUUUUUUUUMBLE ! Ted IP: Logged
Taylor Member	posted 05-30-2007 02:24 PM The fight is over and Dougie stated he wasn't going to waste his time looking at the anti site EVER AGAIN. However, there is a fairly new poster '1904' that is an examiner (& a CVSA nut) and revealing a lot of info. Taylor IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 05-30-2007 02:50 PM 1904 is even more tenacious than palerider. I am impressed with his overall aggressive tone and cheap-shot wit----attributes I both hate and admire. It's funny though, no matter how base the discussion becomes over there, George remains civil, poised, and even-headed. It's a common characteristic in copraphiles. [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-30-2007).] [This message has been edited by stat (edited 05-30-2007).] IP: Logged
Bill2E Member	posted 06-01-2007 03:10 PM copraphiles Had to look that one up, yuk. IP: Logged
stat Member	posted 06-01-2007 05:45 PM As always, I have to misspell (sp?) words that I know good and well how to spell. I have had (as clients) 2 coprophiles in my career. They are alleged to be very cheap dates, and best of all, they always carry plenty of laxative and mints. sorry, I couldn't resist.----tats IP: Logged

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